I have to slightly revise my previous comment on the hand: I still think the overshove on the turn is the right play putting maximum pressure on mediocre hands like toppair. A 2nd nuts flushdraw along with a straightdraw is just too stong for being folded on the turn. With a hand like that you want to stay the aggressor in the hand. Williams is forced to make a tough decision, which (luckily for him) ended up being correct. With a weaker kicker, Williams would have folded here I guess.
@MKscamp Whoa whoa whoa. Slow down now. What does he overshove with on the turn when the jack comes? It made his hand right? He should have a boat and only a boat. Too thin of a hand range to rep. Bad play.
@MKscamp Actually I think it was a pretty good call. Dan probably can’t have AQ, JJ or QQ here because he would’ve raised them preflop. That means the only hands he can have that beat DW are 44, J4, and QJ. On the other hand, DH could also have check raised with T9hh, KThh, Qxhh, and possibly Axhh, T8hh, and 89hh. Given that DW was getting 2-1 on his money, I think he made the right call given Harrington’s range.
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@jestes7 And you should. The two pair / set talk is only relevant if the board doesn’t pair on the turn. I wouldn’t think Harrington was tricky enough to move a boat in there, so you’re basically paying for a jack only, which looks unlikely, though certainly possible. Personally, I’d think a queen or a combi-draw was most likely, so if I’m getting any sort of price I call in that particular situation.
dan went all in too fast in my opinion. kinda made it obvious he had a hand that didnt want to be called.
good play by both
I disagree with MKscamp. His betting wasn’t coherent is why. If he did flop 2 pair or a set, going all in on the turn didn’t make any sense. After all, if he did have q 4, his hand would lose to a better kicker, if he had j 4 or a set, I’d assume he wouldn’t just go all in, he would try to get as many chips as he could to not scare him away.
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@MKscamp i disagree. good call David.
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@MKscamp no one play set like that, including dan. he overbet the turn like he wanted that david folds, williams read this and makes a good call imo. i think harrington tilt a little when david snap call the flop. the turn J is not a good card for harrington because decreases the posibility that he´s holds a monster hand. And if williams call the raise in the flop, 100% of the time call any bet in the turn if comes a blank like the J.
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it’s sick call, but if u have a monster hand, u would like played it more careful, for make some money from opponent. So I think that it was semi-bluff… or draw-bluff reading from David.
And after double card, i will think twice for making push all in – it’s cash, not tournament. Dane was tryed play it by image maybe…
They both making mistakes, maybe David more…
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@cookielights oh i didn’t see the other call. In that case I don’t mind the flop check/raise because of the dead money. However the turn he should just give up, esp since if he called an OOP (scary-looking) flop check/raise, he likely has a strong hand he won’t fold, like a boat. that turn card is prob the 2nd worst card for dan.
how big were the stacks? how much did he bet on the turn relative to the pot. This was FR, and I don’t think the turn shove was at all good. And the check/raise on the flop is fucking horrible, esp vs a bad player.
I have to slightly revise my previous comment on the hand: I still think the overshove on the turn is the right play putting maximum pressure on mediocre hands like toppair. A 2nd nuts flushdraw along with a straightdraw is just too stong for being folded on the turn. With a hand like that you want to stay the aggressor in the hand. Williams is forced to make a tough decision, which (luckily for him) ended up being correct. With a weaker kicker, Williams would have folded here I guess.
@MKscamp Whoa whoa whoa. Slow down now. What does he overshove with on the turn when the jack comes? It made his hand right? He should have a boat and only a boat. Too thin of a hand range to rep. Bad play.
@MKscamp Actually I think it was a pretty good call. Dan probably can’t have AQ, JJ or QQ here because he would’ve raised them preflop. That means the only hands he can have that beat DW are 44, J4, and QJ. On the other hand, DH could also have check raised with T9hh, KThh, Qxhh, and possibly Axhh, T8hh, and 89hh. Given that DW was getting 2-1 on his money, I think he made the right call given Harrington’s range.
@IK407 go man, go!! isn’t it great when that information starts sinking in and you say to yourself, “i get it” !? haven’t read the harrington stuff, but i’ve read some geared toward online play.
NOOO DAVID WILLIAMS DON’T DO IT. DON’T DO IT. JANET MASON IS NOT A GOOD OP!
I read Harrington on Holdem and now I just started reading Harrington on Cash Games since online poker shutdown in the US. I have to tell you I am very excited. I read up to page 100 on Vol 1 and i already have figured out two leaks in my game. I cant wait to finish both books and be a successful cash game player.
Had the same this week. NO CLUB NO CLUB. rivercard a club and I was like damn ffs… oh wait fullhouse while seeing the chips moving my way xD
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@jestes7 And you should. The two pair / set talk is only relevant if the board doesn’t pair on the turn. I wouldn’t think Harrington was tricky enough to move a boat in there, so you’re basically paying for a jack only, which looks unlikely, though certainly possible. Personally, I’d think a queen or a combi-draw was most likely, so if I’m getting any sort of price I call in that particular situation.
dan went all in too fast in my opinion. kinda made it obvious he had a hand that didnt want to be called.
good play by both
I disagree with MKscamp. His betting wasn’t coherent is why. If he did flop 2 pair or a set, going all in on the turn didn’t make any sense. After all, if he did have q 4, his hand would lose to a better kicker, if he had j 4 or a set, I’d assume he wouldn’t just go all in, he would try to get as many chips as he could to not scare him away.
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@MKscamp i disagree. good call David.
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Did anyone notice how long Williams stared at Harrington’s hands / cards during pre-flop before Dan made the check?
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@MKscamp no one play set like that, including dan. he overbet the turn like he wanted that david folds, williams read this and makes a good call imo. i think harrington tilt a little when david snap call the flop. the turn J is not a good card for harrington because decreases the posibility that he´s holds a monster hand. And if williams call the raise in the flop, 100% of the time call any bet in the turn if comes a blank like the J.
QQ 3betpreflop,JJtunlikely,andwilliamsQblock other combs.
it’s sick call, but if u have a monster hand, u would like played it more careful, for make some money from opponent. So I think that it was semi-bluff… or draw-bluff reading from David.
And after double card, i will think twice for making push all in – it’s cash, not tournament. Dane was tryed play it by image maybe…
They both making mistakes, maybe David more…
AND IT’S POKERRRRRRRRRRRR
@cookielights oh i didn’t see the other call. In that case I don’t mind the flop check/raise because of the dead money. However the turn he should just give up, esp since if he called an OOP (scary-looking) flop check/raise, he likely has a strong hand he won’t fold, like a boat. that turn card is prob the 2nd worst card for dan.
how big were the stacks? how much did he bet on the turn relative to the pot. This was FR, and I don’t think the turn shove was at all good. And the check/raise on the flop is fucking horrible, esp vs a bad player.